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  • Alright guys, MP5 was well received by the community in already one day, you're making it difficult for us to keep surprising you with each suggestion we make. Like MP5, this is another returning weapon from R2D 2014, we wanted to make M1 Garand feel like you're actually doing something with it, a lot of power packed into it while at the same time feeling like every shot counts. Instead of having ignys do the backstory this time, we recruited a new member to the team, TheSopwithCamel to do the backstory. He is also the man behind this idea, so props to him.


    EDIT (10/31/19): 61 KUDOS!!! THANK YOU!!! Updated reload stats (2s & 2.5s), added new Soldier Animation Pack (By Scrufus)


    EDIT (11/2/19): 91 KUDOS!!! Buffed accuracy 190 -> 210 & Ammo 8/2 -> 8/3, removed damage penalty on Garand thumb



    EDIT (11/4/19): 100 KUDOS!!! THANK YOU!!!!


    Summary

    The M1 Garand is a returning weapon from R2D 2014. It is a primary assault rifle that is well known for it's 'ping' sound when it uses all its ammo. It has a unique reload mechanic that punishes the player if they reload the weapon with ammo still left in the clip, making it a second longer than its actual reload without any ammo in the clip.

    Background Story

    Sinister Arms Inc. was on a streak. The success of the 1886 Winchester and the 1887 Shotgun made the company well renowned across the apocalyptic land. One day, a small, mysterious package appeared in the mailbox. It was no larger than a tissue box; on top of the package was a letter that said “To whom it may concern, read me first.” The CEO decided to look into the matter personally and read the letter, which stated the following:


    “I would like to meet with you to discuss something regarding a weapon that I think will help turn the tide of the apocalypse. I have no further need for it, my time is almost up. Please meet me at -LOCATION REDACTED-. I hope this little present will persuade you.”


    Sinister Arms usually gets a lot of letters like this all too often. People requesting weapons, meet-ups which turn out to be ambushes, but no one has ever sent them actual packages. Why would this letter be sent? What made it different from the rest? What was inside?


    Inside was a small clip with 8 bullets. 8 bullets in the .30-06 Springfield cartridge. A small clip that made a distinct ping if you flicked it with your finger.


    The meetup was imminent. A legend was about to make a Garand return.

    Pros

    • Great Damage
    • Lots of ammo
    • Decent attachments

    Cons

    • Long Reload when reloading with bullets left in the clip
    • Expensive
    • Can run out of ammo quickly


    Trivia

    • M1 Garand is a returning weapon from R2D 2014.
    • Idea by GoSinister & TheSopwithCamel, modeled by fusionFSJAL, textured by LITTLEROBBY11, animated by bloxxerMan666 & Scrufus, and backstory by TheSopwithCamel.
    • M1 Garand has the famous ping sound effect when you reload the weapon without any bullets left in the clip.


    ANIMATIONS / Poses

    We had ideas for a special animation pack to go with this weapon, but could not think of anything really cool we could use so it was scrapped. The default poses are based of of R700 and the first iteration of the Winchester run that shipped with Update 1.3.7.

    D​​​efault Animations

    The gun size in this image are not to scale. I tried to do something unique with the run animation to make it look like you're actually sprinting with the gun in hand. The reload was hard to do and even harder when bloxxer had to animate it with the actual size to scale. The firing pose was also changed in the final animation.
    M1poses

    M1 Garand Attachments

    There was a limited amount of attachments we could use for this weapon until it became out of place. We had ideas to create an animation pack that makes your animations change into something that an actual soldier would do, but that proved difficult so we scrapped it (for now at least...), we also had an idea for extended mags but I thought of the wrong weapon and imagined a M14, so that was also scrapped. I then came up with an attachment called Ammo Pouch (as I was creating this thread I realized that someone else had a similar idea in another M1 Garand thread lol, please don't smite me and say I'm stealing ideas). The Ammo Pouch gives you +1 clip for the gun and that's about it. You can choose either Ammo Pouch or 25% Reload Speed as your secondary attachment. We originally thought of using a scope, same used as R700, for M1 Garand's first attachment. Instead, we decided to make the first slot reserved for an entirely new animation pack for the M1 Garand simply called "Soldier". (See video below for the Soldier Animation Pack). In the animation pack, there is a 1 out of 1,000 chance where you will get a special animation where your character reloads the M1 Garand incorrectly, hurting their thumb in the process. This deals no damage, it's very rare to ever see it ingame but it's a neat little attention to detail we decided to do. The only special ammo you can use on this weapon is hard bullets. Self explanatory, nothing interesting in this area other than the Ammo Pouch. Sorry for the lack of visual representation this time guys, time constraints.

    And of course the famous ping sound will play when all ammo is used in the clip.


    References

    Like always here are some reference videos for the animations and such.

    PING!


    Animations [VIDEO]

    For this suggestion, we had bloxxerMan666 create the animations for this gun. He scaled the M1 Garand to other R2DA weapons and it turned out it was a lot longer than what I used in the poses. We recruited another new animator that gave us the idea for the Soldier Animation Pack, Scrufus. Take a look at his animations in the 2nd video below, he did a fantastic job along with bloxxerMan666 in bringing back the M1 Garand!

    M1 Garand Animations - R2D A Suggestion

    M1 Garand Animations - R2D A Suggestion

    M1 Garand Default Animations by bloxxerMan666


    UNOFFICIAL R2DA M1 Granand - Soldier Animations

    UNOFFICIAL R2DA M1 Granand - Soldier Animations

    M1 Garand Soldier Animations by Scrufus


    In Conclusion / TL;DR

    M1 Garand is the second weapon we decided to try and bring back to R2DA. We are pushing to release AK74U soon as MP5 and M1 Garand are completed. We just started picking our roles for the next three weapons we are deciding to remake: Chinalake, Crossbow, and Crowbar. If you liked our idea, consider giving us a kudos. If you have any critcism or feedback on anything we did in this suggestion, let us know in the comments, I'm always open for feedback. Hopefully we can get AK47U done by next week.


    CREDITS

    • GoSinister - Aided in the creation of the idea, made the stats and poses.
    • TheSopwithCamel - Wrote the backstory
    • LITTLEROBBY11 - Created Model & Texture
    • bloxxerMan666 - Animated M1 Garand
    • fusionFSJAL - Improved the M1 Garand model
    • Scrufus - Animated Soldier Animation Pack




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    • awesome

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    • nice

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    • first

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    • EPIC

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    • Finally mid_ranks will have fun with this and mp5 if this is accepted

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    • i farted

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    • im kill you

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    • Rank should have been 10 or 11

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    • Really like the design, stats are definitely fine (maybe lower the rank, but unlocking both this and the MP5 at rank 15 fits well), and classic ping reload is included so that's a plus.

      GJ

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    • This vs tommy once newbies get to the rank.

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    • oh yeah baby the revolution of low rank weapons is here finally there is GONNA BE FINALLY MORE LOW RANK GUNS!!

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    • Holy shit seeing how good the stats, and the gun look just make me happy. Phenomenal job on this gun guys, and it really means something to me too since this was my favorite gun for a while in the COR5 days, and remains my favorite gun in general.

      The only criticism I have is that it doesn't feel like a rank 15 gun, maybe something like a rank 18+ gun, but I guess it is a bit expensive for that rank, so it should work.

      Seriously its so cool that this gun is rank 15, and it literally could contend with the Winchester in viability at that rank. (if it works how I think it will)

      Now on to a couple suggestions I have for the gun that are mostly just dreams of mine for this gun, but please still consider a few especially this first one.


      More kickback on the firing animation; The M1Garand has some insane real-life recoil, and seeing that the animation just has it turn upwards, and then turn downwards with no backwards movement kinda triggers me a tiny little bit. To show you how easily you could dislocate your shoulder with this thing look at this video so you know what I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5saxa9sTgVM (skip to 17 seconds)


      A leather or thread rope that holds the M1Garand on your back when you don't have it equipped; This is mostly for aesthetics because it would just look cool as hell, but if you wanted it to be an attachment maybe it could improve range to maybe (210?), but its downside would be that there would be a small animation of taking the M1Garand off your back before you could use it. I don't really care what happens to it I just want it to exist. --- These next suggestions aren't as serious as the ones above, they're mostly just stuff I'd personally want.


      A telescopic sight for the M1Garand; Actually this one is kinda more serious that I think about it because in my opinion the vortex has too powerful of stats for the M1Garands current stats. Basically the telescopic scope would be a new "sight" that gives a more modest +50 Range | +20-15 Accuracy. Best picture I could find that's on an auction website cause I spent too long looking for a pic: https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjGr_ORvb3lAhWkUt8KHfqJBAgQjhx6BAgBEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rockislandauction.com%2Fdetail%2F75%2F3630%2Fspringfield-armory-us-m1garand-sniper&psig=AOvVaw0EQ96LvHy65oWBOTfFdZLW&ust=1572301225654035


      A Bayonet for the M1Garand; This is my last serious suggestion because PR would actually have to do something to make this work, but it could be cool. It would deal 115 damage lets say, and would deal damage when the gun is in the fired position, and you are running into a damageable entity. Probably couldn't work, but it has given me an idea...


      That's all, and thanks for reading if you did! Like I said I'm really happy with the weapon right now, but I can't live with myself without making some suggestions for it!

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    • Trench Warfare.

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    • cool, insta kudo

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    • broski, any guns u make, im automatically kudo'ing, your gun suggestions are lit.

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    • MORE LOW RANK GUNS YES YES YES THIS GUN IS SO COOL!

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    • obamacare

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    • y e s

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    • wow the only suggestion that everyone likes, including me

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    • I bet this gun will be added to r2da

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    • In no time it will get so many kudos and PR will add it XD

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    • Cool gun that serves as an alternative to the ak. I like it.

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    • you heard it here first, rank 15 is the rank where expensive op weapons begin

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    • time to destroy some zombies with the american anthem

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    • Oh nice, a straight upgrade of the dragunov

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    • vv
      Yesok

      yes

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    • ok.

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    • This is a battle rifle not a assault rifle

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    • +points for sopwith camel bc



      -inserting himself into sinister lore

      -revamping the garand that he was desperate for kudos for lol

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    • Technically I wanted the Carbine, but having used the Garand frequently in R2D, it only felt right to bring the legend back before trying other period weapons as suggestions.

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    • Really good weapon for mid ranks,that have good stats, design and animations Pack. I think PR should add this weapon for some balance for mid ranks.

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    • Everyone:oh cool an awesome gun i hope it gets added into the game

      Americans that play R2DA:

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    • really hope this gets added to R2DA, one of my favorite weapons.

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    • M1 Garand Will be added in another next updates

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    • is easy to buy a M1 Garand Rank 15

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    • The gun needs a buff it is extremely innacurate compared to the dragenov and the only redeaming factory is that it can one shot body shot un-health buffed normal zombies but besides that there isnt any reason to use this over the dragenov beside hard bullets which would give you 24 or 32 bullets that you have a roughly 20% at missing because of the accuracy on the gun but if used in emergancys you can get yourself out of a jam. The reasiest way to make the gun an alternative gun to the dragenov is to increase the fireate and accuracy and nerf the range to make it so people have to choose either precission and range or fireate and damage. Also if you need a sight attachment idea a AA sight could do 

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    • I really hope this gets added to the game i always want the m1 garand in this game but if you ask me the game is now pretty boring to play but this looks really a funny weapon to get if this really gets added i think im gonna play more r2da for that and get some good times with this weapon even if im a high rank player

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    • Dragonov but its old remington, I WANT IT

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    • Rager300 wrote: The gun needs a buff it is extremely innacurate compared to the dragenov and the only redeaming factory is that it can one shot body shot un-health buffed normal zombies but besides that there isnt any reason to use this over the dragenov beside hard bullets which would give you 24 or 32 bullets that you have a roughly 20% at missing because of the accuracy on the gun but if used in emergancys you can get yourself out of a jam. The reasiest way to make the gun an alternative gun to the dragenov is to increase the fireate and accuracy and nerf the range to make it so people have to choose either precission and range or fireate and damage. Also if you need a sight attachment idea a AA sight could do 

      Not everything is a god damn sniper in this game

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    • imagine having 1 HP and you die to the thumb getting stuck in your M1 garand

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    • ROLVeBloxxer wrote:

      Rager300 wrote: The gun needs a buff it is extremely innacurate compared to the dragenov and the only redeaming factory is that it can one shot body shot un-health buffed normal zombies but besides that there isnt any reason to use this over the dragenov beside hard bullets which would give you 24 or 32 bullets that you have a roughly 20% at missing because of the accuracy on the gun but if used in emergancys you can get yourself out of a jam. The reasiest way to make the gun an alternative gun to the dragenov is to increase the fireate and accuracy and nerf the range to make it so people have to choose either precission and range or fireate and damage. Also if you need a sight attachment idea a AA sight could do 

      Not everything is a god damn sniper in this game

      well i mean using this would kinda be like using a lugar over the peacemaker they cost roughly the same and one provides a signifigant advantage and you happen to be using the on that is worse but in this case that advantage is prettymuch all around the good ones 50% less than the worse one and you can also get it as a carry weapon

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    • Rager300 wrote:
      ROLVeBloxxer wrote:

      Rager300 wrote: The gun needs a buff it is extremely innacurate compared to the dragenov and the only redeaming factory is that it can one shot body shot un-health buffed normal zombies but besides that there isnt any reason to use this over the dragenov beside hard bullets which would give you 24 or 32 bullets that you have a roughly 20% at missing because of the accuracy on the gun but if used in emergancys you can get yourself out of a jam. The reasiest way to make the gun an alternative gun to the dragenov is to increase the fireate and accuracy and nerf the range to make it so people have to choose either precission and range or fireate and damage. Also if you need a sight attachment idea a AA sight could do 

      Not everything is a god damn sniper in this game
      well i mean using this would kinda be like using a lugar over the peacemaker they cost roughly the same and one provides a signifigant advantage and you happen to be using the on that is worse but in this case that advantage is prettymuch all around the good ones 50% less than the worse one and you can also get it as a carry weapon

      "Luger over the peacemaker" bro thats my motto in R2DA.

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    • "well i mean using this would kinda be like using a lugar over the peacemaker they cost roughly the same and one provides a signifigant advantage and you happen to be using the on that is worse but in this case that advantage is prettymuch all around the good ones 50% less than the worse one and you can also get it as a carry weapon" -Rager300

      Ones a primary, and ones a secondary, your comparing them like they're both equipped in the same slot, so your entire argument from this prospective is literally invalid. Of course the peacemakers are better then the luger, but that also goes for almost every primary to secondary comparison. I recommend you take time to look at your suggestions, and your counterclaims, and maybe change them to something that's more realistic and legitimate, but if you really think your opinions are the best then I have no power to change that.

      "well i mean using this would kinda be like using a lugar over the peacemaker they cost roughly the same" -Rager300

      Just saw this, and I just have to say this is straight up wrong, think about what your saying before you post stuff like this, and before you try to defend something that is clearly false just to protect your idea or pride. (Luger: $35,000 | P90: $88,000)

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    • Primeaball wrote:
      "well i mean using this would kinda be like using a lugar over the peacemaker they cost roughly the same and one provides a signifigant advantage and you happen to be using the on that is worse but in this case that advantage is prettymuch all around the good ones 50% less than the worse one and you can also get it as a carry weapon"

      -Rager300

      Ones a primary, and ones a secondary, your comparing them like they're both equipped in the same slot, so your entire argument from this prospective is literally invalid. Of course the peacemakers are better then the luger, but that also goes for almost every primary to secondary comparison. I recommend you take time to look at your suggestions, and your counterclaims, and maybe change them to something that's more realistic and legitimate, but if you really think your opinions are the best then I have no power to change that.

      "well i mean using this would kinda be like using a lugar over the peacemaker they cost roughly the same" -Rager300

      Just saw this, and I just have to say this is straight up wrong, think about what your saying before you post stuff like this, and before you try to defend something that is clearly false just to protect your idea or pride. (Luger: $35,000 | P90: $88,000)

      you realise the peacemakers are secondarys right?https://gyazo.com/078f6c59d1fd063a4a38890914be0768

      they're literally right next to the lugar in game on the secondarys page wait do you think the peacemakers are the P90? Cause that seems to be where this is pointing torwards

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    • For rank 15 this is too good. With hard bullets, it deals 175 damage per bullet and has a firerate of .35 sec. It fires, rounded up, 3 bullets a second giving it a dps of 525. Absolutely trumps the AK-47. AK has 303 dps and this has 525 dps. Way too good for mid-rank gun. Not even expensive either compared to AK-47. This has the stats of a HR weapon. I rather use this then Winchester due to the high damage, much better firerate, and quicker reload. Needs nerf.    

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    • Codered1245 wrote: For rank 15 this is too good. With hard bullets, it deals 175 damage per bullet and has a firerate of .35 sec. It fires, rounded up, 3 bullets a second giving it a dps of 525. Absolutely trumps the AK-47. AK has 303 dps and this has 525 dps. Way too good for mid-rank gun. Not even expensive either compared to AK-47. This has the stats of a HR weapon. I rather use this then Winchester due to the high damage, much better firerate, and quicker reload. Needs nerf.    

      and no one has problem with dragunov which is could be on rank 30

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    • AtypicalBarrettUser wrote:

      and no one has problem with dragunov which is could be on rank 30

      This absolutely trumps drag.Drag does 115 damage while this, with hard bullets, can deal 175 and has a dps of 525. That's op. 

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    • Codered1245 wrote:

      AtypicalBarrettUser wrote:

      and no one has problem with dragunov which is could be on rank 30

      This absolutely trumps drag.Drag does 115 damage while this, with hard bullets, can deal 175 and has a dps of 525. That's op. 

      its only 10 damage and also it has less ammo costs more and its on higher rank basically dragunov is still one of the best guns out there in r2da

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    • you guys realise that the dragenov has 460 dps right? it has a faster fireate and reload speed and is easy to hit headshots with with 400 accuracy while you got the scope on.i feel like the only thing people want out of this is hard bullets and a new semi auto gun.

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    • AtypicalBarrettUser wrote:

      its only 10 damage and also it has less ammo costs more and its on higher rank basically dragunov is still one of the best guns out there in r2da

      No. If you read the suggestion it has 125 damage and hard bullets. Hard bullets boost your damage on bullets by +50. Making it actually deal 60 extra damage per bullet. This has a lot of ammo at 8/3. With bulldozer this becomes 8/5, This weapon is too good for rank 15. Rank 15 isn't a really tough rank to get to. 

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    • Codered1245 wrote:

      AtypicalBarrettUser wrote:

      its only 10 damage and also it has less ammo costs more and its on higher rank basically dragunov is still one of the best guns out there in r2da

      No. If you read the suggestion it has 125 damage and hard bullets. Hard bullets boost your damage on bullets by +50. Making it actually deal 60 extra damage per bullet. This has a lot of ammo at 8/3. With bulldozer this becomes 8/5, This weapon is too good for rank 15. Rank 15 isn't a really tough rank to get to. 

      yeah but its a freaking attachment and bulldozer is a armor so please do not consider guns op with ATTACHMENTS instead of their original form.

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    • AtypicalBarrettUser wrote:

      yeah but its a freaking attachment and bulldozer is a armor so please do not consider guns op with ATTACHMENTS instead of their original form.

      But $125 isn't a lot of money. You can easily earn that back and you will actually make more money per round with hard bullets than without cause you boost the weapon's killing capabilities. There would be no reason to not use hard bullets. A weapon shouldn't be able to deal 175 damage at rank 15 with a firerate of .35. 

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    • Codered1245 wrote:

      AtypicalBarrettUser wrote:

      yeah but its a freaking attachment and bulldozer is a armor so please do not consider guns op with ATTACHMENTS instead of their original form.

      But $125 isn't a lot of money. You can easily earn that back and you will actually make more money per round with hard bullets than without cause you boost the weapon killing capabilities. There would be no reason to not use hard bullets. A weapon shouldn't be able to deal 175 damage at rank 15 with a firerate of .35. 

      oh whoopsie but remington is a rank 1 weapon and it can deal 150 damage with hard bullets so it's oppp

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    • AtypicalBarrettUser wrote:

      oh whoopsie but remington is a rank 1 weapon and it can deal 150 damage with hard bullets so it's oppp

      Remington has a fireate of .8. It can fire off around 1 bullet a sec while this can fire off 3 and outdamages the remington at 175 damage.

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    • Codered1245 wrote:
      AtypicalBarrettUser wrote:

      oh whoopsie but remington is a rank 1 weapon and it can deal 150 damage with hard bullets so it's oppp

      Remington has a fireate of .8. It can fire off around 1 bullet a sec while this can fire off 3 and outdamages the remington at 175 damage.

      if you want a semi auto sniper with hard bullets so bad why dont you just ask for hard bullets on the dragenov. the only thing you would really miss out on is a one shot ticker headshot but that can alwaus be solve with a wacky stick(baseball bat)plus it would have 2 times the accuracy so you wouldnt waste an bullets and fire rates 4 bullets per second "so it would be OP"

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    • Rager300 wrote:

      if you want a semi auto sniper with hard bullets so bad why dont you just ask for hard bullets on the dragenov. the only thing you would really miss out on is a one shot ticker headshot but that can alwaus be solve with a wacky stick(baseball bat)plus it would have 2 times the accuracy so you wouldnt waste an bullets and fire rates 4 bullets per second "so it would be OP"

      No where did I say I want a semi-auto sniper with hard bullets. Drag shouldn't have hard bullets because it has a dps of 460. That's already high enough for a mid rank gun. 

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    • then whats the point of the gun because the only real bonus you get for using the m1 over the dragenov would be 8 more bullets an a one shot body shot on normal zombies compared to the dragenov that has 2x as much accuracy and range and a fireate of 4 bullets per second over 3 and a faster reload speed overall. Both guns without hard bullets have practically the same capabilitys when it comes to shots to kill but the dragenov is just more reliable overall and muuch cheaper 

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    • Rager300 wrote:
      then whats the point of the gun because the only real bonus you get for using the m1 over the dragenov would be 8 more bullets an a one shot body shot on normal zombies compared to the dragenov that has 2x as much accuracy and range and a fireate of 4 bullets per second over 3 and a faster reload speed overall. Both guns without hard bullets have practically the same capabilitys when it comes to shots to kill but the dragenov is just more reliable overall and muuch cheaper 

      We don't need this gun in the game. Drag is already good and balanced enough for a MR weapon. It has 460 dps. We shouldn't have a rank 15 gun in the game with a firerate of .35, 175 damage, and DPS of 525. 

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    • Codered1245 wrote:
      Rager300 wrote:
      then whats the point of the gun because the only real bonus you get for using the m1 over the dragenov would be 8 more bullets an a one shot body shot on normal zombies compared to the dragenov that has 2x as much accuracy and range and a fireate of 4 bullets per second over 3 and a faster reload speed overall. Both guns without hard bullets have practically the same capabilitys when it comes to shots to kill but the dragenov is just more reliable overall and muuch cheaper 
      We don't need this gun in the game. Drag is already good and balanced enough for a MR weapon. It has 460 dps. We shouldn't have a rank 15 gun in the game with a firerate of .35, 175 damage, and DPS of 525. 

      why should i buy an AK when i could get the FAMAS

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    • buffed weapon m1 garand 28000 gold of money 

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    • Finally a weapon that doesn't require rank 3000000 million

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    • Rager300 wrote: then whats the point of the gun because the only real bonus you get for using the m1 over the dragenov would be 8 more bullets an a one shot body shot on normal zombies compared to the dragenov that has 2x as much accuracy and range and a fireate of 4 bullets per second over 3 and a faster reload speed overall. Both guns without hard bullets have practically the same capabilitys when it comes to shots to kill but the dragenov is just more reliable overall and muuch cheaper 

      Drag has a scope attachment, this doesn't. M1 focuses on mid range fights and favors zombie gamemode players with the 5k dmg in total with the ammo pouch attachment

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    • Rangey wrote:

      Rager300 wrote: then whats the point of the gun because the only real bonus you get for using the m1 over the dragenov would be 8 more bullets an a one shot body shot on normal zombies compared to the dragenov that has 2x as much accuracy and range and a fireate of 4 bullets per second over 3 and a faster reload speed overall. Both guns without hard bullets have practically the same capabilitys when it comes to shots to kill but the dragenov is just more reliable overall and muuch cheaper 

      Drag has a scope attachment, this doesn't. M1 focuses on mid range fights and favors zombie gamemode players with the 5k dmg in total with the ammo pouch attachment

      i removed the scope due to people saying that this will become a better dragunov, i decided to remove it altogether instead of trying to salvage it because i realized everyone would use the scope over anything else thats on the gun. instead, scrufus made a soldier animation pack that acts as your first attachment, it wont hurt you in any way and even has a unique reload animation that happens very rarely. ik in real life the m1 garand could be used a sniper, but really thats every weapon if you have precise aim lol. idk if i should nerf the stats now, because i think they look pretty good, a midrank weapon that packs a punch but only up to midrange, it cant hit you across the map but still deadly. i want to do a DMR gun tree later when we're done with 2014 weapons, but for now we're focusing on chinalake and ak47u

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    • A low medium rank weapon? Now this I can give kudos to.

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    • ADD THE DAMAGE PENALTY BACK! ITS PERFECT WITH THE DAMAGE!

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    • le-bump

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    • This is basically better than the winchester. Nice.

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    • OLatios wrote:
      This is basically better than the winchester. Nice.

      how

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    • Cool

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    • Battle Field five just released the m1 garand in there game a week ago, this thread started roughly 3 weeks ago. weird 

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    • OLatios wrote: This is basically better than the winchester. Nice.

      Confused-Nick-Young

      wot

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    • OLatios wrote: This is basically better than the winchester. Nice.

      no

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    • ROLVeBloxxer wrote:
      OLatios wrote:
      This is basically better than the winchester. Nice.
      how

      M1 Garand: 

      One shots normal zombies, edgars, and leapers.

      One shots Diggers, Elementals, Swarmers, on headshot.

      Semi-Auto.

      32 Shots, 4,000 total damage.

      Can kill 32 normal zombies.

      Way lower rank and price.

      Ammo pouch makes garand able to kill 40 Normal Zombies and brings total damage up to 5,000.

      Winchester:

      One shots: Normal Zombies, Edgars, Leapers, Swarmers, Diggers.

      One shots Stalkers, Elementals, Tickers on headshot.

      Lever-Action.

      Hard Impact 2.

      24 Shots, 5,160 total damage.

      Can kill 24 normal zombies. (Maybe a couple more because hard impact.)

      High ranked and expensive.

      Higher Accuracy and range.

      In conclusion, M1 Garand (Mid-rank and lower priced) with ammo pouch allows you to kill 40 Normal Zombies and the total damage is 5,000. Winchester (High-ranked and expensive,) can kill 24 Normal Zombies and has a total damage of 5,160 only 160 higher than garand with pouch. Plus winchester is lever-action and Garand is semi-automatic allowing the garand to kill alot faster.

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    • ok that makes garand actually slightly op

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    • OLatios wrote:

      ROLVeBloxxer wrote:
      OLatios wrote:
      This is basically better than the winchester. Nice.
      how

      M1 Garand: 

      One shots normal zombies, edgars, and leapers.

      One shots Diggers, Elementals, Swarmers, on headshot.

      Semi-Auto.

      32 Shots, 4,000 total damage.

      Can kill 32 normal zombies.

      Way lower rank and price.

      Ammo pouch makes garand able to kill 40 Normal Zombies and brings total damage up to 5,000.

      Winchester:

      One shots: Normal Zombies, Edgars, Leapers, Swarmers, Diggers.

      One shots Stalkers, Elementals, Tickers on headshot.

      Lever-Action.

      Hard Impact 2.

      24 Shots, 5,160 total damage.

      Can kill 24 normal zombies. (Maybe a couple more because hard impact.)

      High ranked and expensive.

      Higher Accuracy and range.

      In conclusion, M1 Garand (Mid-rank and lower priced) with ammo pouch allows you to kill 40 Normal Zombies and the total damage is 5,000. Winchester (High-ranked and expensive,) can kill 24 Normal Zombies and has a total damage of 5,160 only 160 higher than garand with pouch. Plus winchester is lever-action and Garand is semi-automatic allowing the garand to kill alot faster.

      • you bring up winchester's hard impact yet you dont even total it up to the amount of zombies a full set of ammo can kill lol
      • you dont have to wait to shoot with the winchester since it reloads like a shotgun
      • winchester is affected by shotgun armor bonus
      • damage isnt everything, what good is a gun to you if it cant hit the broad side of a barn
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    • world war II battle royale

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    • AtypicalBarrettUser wrote:
      ok that makes garand actually slightly op

      bruh garand not op

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    • PLEASE ADD THIS PR THIS IS THE ONLY WEAPON THATS LOW ENOUGH FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO BUY PR PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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    • OLatios wrote:
      This is basically better than the winchester. Nice.

      more total damage != better

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    • PeridotIsWithYou wrote:
      OLatios wrote:
      This is basically better than the winchester. Nice.
      more total damage != better

      175 damage with hard bullets, can kill everything in the game besides brutes at 175 damage with a headshot including tickers, 525 dps, .35 firerate compared to 1.04, one shotting multiple zombies to the body like winchester, greater total damage, 1.5 sec reload(speed reloader attachment) = much better gun at rank 15 


      It does the exact same damage as Spas, a shotgun, with hard bullets and has a faster fire rate at .35 compared to .5 spas firerate. 


      Too powerful for a rank 15 gun

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    • ROLVeBloxxer wrote:
      • damage isnt everything, what good is a gun to you if it cant hit the broad side of a barn

      Wow you're really exaggerating. This gun has 210 accuracy. That's accurate. You don't even need to land headshots. All you need to do is land a shot anywhere on the body to oneshot a zombie at 175 damage(hard bullets) 



      "you bring up winchester's hard impact yet you dont even total it up to the amount of zombies a full set of ammo can kill lol"



      How often do you kill multiple zombies with hard impact with winchester? Rarely. Peridotiswithyou even refers to hard impact on winchester as just a "gimmick" in his/her videos.


      "you dont have to wait to shoot with the winchester since it reloads like a shotgun"


      Winchester takes a rather long time to load in 8 bullets at 5 secs. M1 Garand, with the speed reloader attachment, has a reload of 1.5 sec. I believe that would make it have the fastest reload in the game behind Stey-M with the speed reloader attachment. I rather have a insanely quick reload than a gun that slowly reloads like a shotgun. 

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    • Codered1245 wrote:

      ROLVeBloxxer wrote:
      • damage isnt everything, what good is a gun to you if it cant hit the broad side of a barn

      Wow you're really exaggerating. This gun has 210 accuracy. That's accurate. You don't even need to land headshots. All you need to do is land a shot anywhere on the body to oneshot a zombie at 175 damage(hard bullets) 



      "you bring up winchester's hard impact yet you dont even total it up to the amount of zombies a full set of ammo can kill lol"



      How often do you kill multiple zombies with hard impact with winchester? Rarely. Peridotiswithyou even refers to hard impact on winchester as just a "gimmick" in his/her videos.


      "you dont have to wait to shoot with the winchester since it reloads like a shotgun"


      Winchester takes a rather long time to load in 8 bullets at 5 secs. M1 Garand, with the speed reloader attachment, has a reload of 1.5 sec. I believe that would make it have the fastest reload in the game behind Stey-M with the speed reloader attachment. I rather have a insanely quick reload than a gun that slowly reloads like a shotgun. 

      please there are more op weapons than this in rank below 15 like Dragunov which can have destructive effect on any zombies no matter what.

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    • dragenov has one shot headshot potential with double the accuracy and no ones going crazy about it, It acts as a real good weapon for crowd control people cause of its accuracy and fireate. perhaps if you put a sight on it then you could help give people a better reason to trade off. also once again if you want an idea of what 210 accuracy go and try hitting some zombies with a unscoped remington 700 and see how that goes. hard bullets shouldnt be the selling point of a gun realistically how many people are going to use all the ammo stations because they were spamming the m1. Its not killing you to take an extra shot at a digger or just run a melee but inconsistancy in how many shots your hitting might.

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    • Who uses dragenov??

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    • Perfectguest1 wrote: Who uses dragenov??

      lots of people

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    • basically anyone who decides the HKs trash 

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    • PING

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    • b u m p

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    • Perfectguest1 wrote:
      Who uses dragenov??

      I use it all the time in battlestation servers because unlike barret and winchester it didn't get a nerf so its really op in battlestation.

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    • dude let it die

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    • Yes sir

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    • good idea just to much money make it 18k.
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    • me, a guy who loves watching shows and reading about WWII:



      YES YES YES YES YES YES...Y E S

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    • F R E A K I N G L E T I T D I E A L R E A D Y E E E E E

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    • no

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    • aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

      b u m p

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    • DUDE STOP THIS IS NECROPOST.

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    • bUmp

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    • We want this ingame.

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    • PING

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    • LITTLEROBBY11 wrote:
      i farted

      stop talking about sensitive topics pls

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    • Bump! But I personally think it should be rank 18.But otherwise, amazing!

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    • "Type" section says its an assault rifle, when its a semi-auto rifle

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    • AntiAvatar wrote:
      "Type" section says its an assault rifle, when its a semi-auto rifle

      just because something isnt automatic doesnt mean it isnt classified as an assault rifle

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    • Don't die

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    • Add iTtTttT

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    • i still hope this will be a thing in the future in R2DA

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    • BUMp!!1!!!!!




      plz dont ban me for bumping D:

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    • there should be a attachment that is called bayonet and you can bayonet charge!11111!!!!

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    • Lockpickings wrote:
      there should be a attachment that is called bayonet and you can bayonet charge!11111!!!!

      to activate the charge, you need to press shift+shift to start charging to any target. Or you can just stab zombies with a normal swing. To change from shooting to bayonet, you need to press v to change modes

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    • lovely. one of your finest suggestions.

      i love the idea of creating a rifle that fills the mid-rank gap between remington and winchester. its a bore to grind for the winchester and the remy isnt fun when you always die using it. the dragnouv is only good on big maps.




      i absoultely love the execution of this weapon's concept, portrayed as a low rank rfile that has high damage, good accuracy and range, but clearly lacking in ammo.



      my only problem is the thumb animation. its cool when your grinding because you could be like "lol i got my thumb stuck look lol" but when you're firing round after round and youve gotta stop in the middle of an arena wave, there's no time to see the easter egg. it can be quite annoying tbh if you're that 1/1000 that gets it

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    • thumb animation was removed a very long time ago because we were using the wrong rig that is used for r2da, it cannot be re-added with the current r2da rig

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    • So is this basically a mid rank Remington?

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    • GoSinister wrote:
      thumb animation was removed a very long time ago because we were using the wrong rig that is used for r2da, it cannot be re-added with the current r2da rig

      shit bruh the video for the gun animations showed it and i got confused



      well thx for letting me know

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    • Bump

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    • Dread is winning

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    • Favulaskoes wrote:
      Dread is winning

      bump

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    • Dragonuv beats it though.

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    • Bump

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    • Bump

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    • What happened to the rule about no bumping other people's posts?

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    • Noncommunistuser wrote: What happened to the rule about no bumping other people's posts?

      gone, reduced to atoms.

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    • Noncommunistuser wrote:
      What happened to the rule about no bumping other people's posts?

      bro I think I'm sick, I don- bro I'm gonna sneeze!

      ah-

      ah-

      ah-

      AH-

      bump

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    • Bump it 

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    • watches in satisfaction as this post hits the comment limit

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    • How

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    • A

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    • realises we're still 400 posts away 



      :)

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    • Heros never die

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    • bump

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    • we are going to have ALOT OF FUN.

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    • Bumpity Bump!

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    • now i can dress up as a soldier and overcook a grenade in the trenches

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    • ping

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    • pong

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    • ping

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    • pong

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    • <reloads>

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    • ping

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    • MASSIVEloser wrote:
      ping

      sir gaylord von trapp

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    • EnterMemesHere wrote:
      MASSIVEloser wrote:
      ping
      sir gaylord von trapp

      you sack of potatoes

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    • oooh boy a new shooty gun to blast those zombies with

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    • i wanna  i wanna do the big ping

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    • bumpeth

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    • thinking back on how many people got blocked because of this post

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    • Mlp skin when?

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    • 200 KUDOS?! PR PLS PUT THIS MASTERPIECE IN.

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    • perfect

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    • its a more efficent dragunov, i am totally gonna buy this when this comes out

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    • you know it'd be kinda funny to see that if you spam the reload button, you get garand thumb

      anyways you have my kudos

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    • PUT IT IN THE GAME ALREADY

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    • add plss not a necro

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    • TehZ3N wrote:
      add plss not a necro

      you necro'd bro

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    • 210 kudos wow thats insane.Regardless of necro im gonna bump this thread.

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    • Dragunov is better. Period. I can pay for something that is a more ranged and accurate weapon such as Dragunov, and a Expensive weapon such as an M1 Garand when Dragunov is:

      -SO much cheaper

      -Higher Accuracy

      -HIgher Range

      -Yes a little less damage, but only by 10

      -Dragunov fires faster, yes, it is only by 0.10 seconds but this can also be life and death

      -No Pullback time / Semi Auto

      -Quicker reload time



      If you want this gun to work, then you have to buff it insanely or lower the rank by a lot.

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    • Should had kept the scope and increase the damage to 145

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    • looking back at this now im most likely gonna change some stats if this ever gets into debug (ex: the overall price, rank req., hard bullets price)

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    • hope so

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    • A FANDOM user
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